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27 September 2014 at 00:14 #1847
Damian Jureczko
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Silesia since the dawn of history was the territory of numerous migration from different areas. Today, many contemporary Silesian do not realize , that in their veins flows the blood of Italian, German, The Czech, Hungarian, etc.. Not knowing the history of their Families often they live in the belief, that the region in which they live, It was for centuries inhabited by successive generations of their ancestors (of all lines). It was not until reaching further, many realize, that any Pra grandmother was such. A native of Wielkopolska, and Prapra maternal grandfather was a stranger near Cracow. Gazing at his name not know never Ancestors example. “across the river”.
My, Genealogists fortunately we are aware of our multiculturalism. I am rising in a typical Silesian Family, in which Father and Grandfather “They did for grub , a w doma sie godało” himself for a time I did not understand how much I connected with other Polish regions and Europe. Even when I started the adventure with genealogy and looking only “po mieczu” all the time stuck only in the region, because the ancestors of the paternal line live in Upper Silesia from the sixteenth century. It was only when I became interested in other lines - a mother, Grandmother of the Father, etc.. I realized that, who I really am…
Using the possibilities , which I would like to offer our mobile site, we began to describe a Family, whose roots go beyond Upper Silesia. Some of this will come out in our department: Resources-lists of residents, but I think, the forum is a good place for inserting such information on a regular basis. So if you come across a marriage in which such. The groom came from “Polish” , or the entry of a priest in which it will be at the baptism of information type: “Parents-Hungarians Rudna- ambient Temeswar” Divide this is here. Such information may be useful for someone , a new person, (Not necessarily related to genealogy) Visitors to our website can they realize how different we have roots…
Please write also about the whole Rodach- Pinocych, Korfantych, Hamplach, Feistach …., whose ancestors come from different corners of Europe…
Damian Jureczko
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28 September 2014 at 00:05 #1935

Damian Jureczko
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I send a link to a page on the Family Pinocy. I know the same person, which have the name of their ancestors.
Link to the page:
http://pinocy.pl/

and a link to the history of the House:
http://pinocy.pl/content/historia-rodu

Damian Jureczko

28 September 2014 at 00:45 #1936
Damian Jureczko
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In 1780. among the first settlers of Pavlov-district today Zabrze (formerly par. Bielszowice) were brothers Francis and Grzegorz Mazur according to the statement coming from Krnov.

16 September 1885. in Huta Laura (today Siemianowice) died Protestant Johann Feist (The husband of Louise Albertine geb. Arndt of Tarnów Mountains). Johann Gottlieb Feist ur. in Kępno in 1828r. and he was the son of a tailor Friedrich Feist and Julian of d. Grundmann

Stanislaw Kostka Czerniejowski(1836-1903r) known bookseller, publisher and editor (“star Piekarska”) ur. in Poznan-the son of Stanislaus and Frances With Albowskich.

D.Jureczko
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28 September 2014 at 14:01 #1945

Damian Jureczko
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Family History Troplowitz

http://www.muzeum.gliwice.pl/troplowitz/

D.Jureczko

2 October 2014 at 18:23 #2283

Przemek Pawełczyk
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I put a list of hosts from the village Bobrowniki, 1900r. Bobrowniki is a very old village servant, which housed the prince's reserve of beavers on the river Brynicy. The official date of foundation settlement is 1273 year. Location from the outset was subject to the parish of St.. Margaret in Bytom, then assigned to the parish in the Stone (now part of Piekary Sl.), which it was separated only in 1820. The history of the village and its residents is extremely interesting. The descendants of the first settlers live here today. The names of “typical” for Bobrownik can be found in the books of many neighboring parishes, because at the beginning I put a list of hosts bobrownickich 1900 year and the list of four mills, what were once located on Brynicy. In the near future I'll be posting about the census and nearby residents Bobrownik Żychcic, what made the Prussian Administration 1792 year. It is interesting inhabitants belonging to the Russian occupation of the parish Prussian- stone. Maybe someone someday be useful this information.

1668r.- the village was 20 kmieci.
1674r. in the village were 4 water-powered mills river Brynicy:
– mill Gajdziński, later called Gaździk, miller was Marcin Gajdzik.
– because, It was located near the southern part of today's Namiarek.
– Convenience, Stone facing.
– Oparowski, He was already in 1674r. Miller was Lawrence Opara (The mill was located on the border with Silesia and after the flood of 1736r. suddenly he found himself on the other side of the river).

According to the records of the tax book Bobrownik mayor Joseph Duda prepared the following list of hosts and farms. Bobrowniki 1900 r.
1. Peter Bacia
2. Joseph Bacia
3. Nicholas Bacia and Joseph Październiak
4. Mateusz Bacia
5. Norbert Boroń
6. Nicholas Bartusik
7. Thomas Boroń and Casper Pant
8. Mateusz Bacia and Francis Player
9. Filip Bartusik
10. Piotr Boroń
11. Joseph Bochenek
12. Felix and Agnes Carpenter
13. Franciszek Chwistek
14. Francis Czapierzyński
15. Wojciech Chwistek
16. James Carpenter
17. Jakub Czarnecki
18. Francis Carpenter
19. Anthony Carpenter
20. Kazimierz Carpenter
21. Francis Pant
22. Joseph nozzle and Marcin Boroń
23. Simon and Anna Pant
24. Francis Pant
25. Jacenty Ambrose (now the name is spelled Jamroży)
26. Jan Czapierzyński
27 Sebastian Pants
28. Maria Ambrose and children
29. Jan Pant
30. Wojciech Pant
31. Joseph Pants
32. Blaise and Francis Pant
33. Leopold Pant
34. Francis Pant
35. Thomas Pant
36. Wojciech nozzle and Marcin Krzykawski
37. Ignatius Pant
38. Joseph Pants
39. Francis Głogowski
40. Paul Głogowski
41. Francis Gajdzik
42. Antoni Gadaczek
43. Jan Głogowski
44. Adam i Jan Gajdzik
45. James and Stanislaus Gajdzik
46. Luke Ambrose
47. Antoni Gajdzik
48. Wojciech Gajdzik
49. Filip Jędrzejec
50. Ignacy Horoba
51. Franciszek i Szymon Karch
52. Francis and Jan głogowski
53. Jan Kadłubiec
54. Antoni Cuban
55. Melchior Karch
56. Tomasz Koziel
57. Michał Kulasik
58. Sylwester Karch
59. Jan Manka
60. Vincent Manka
61. Marcin Nowak
62. Stanislaw Manka
63. Lawrence Smith and John Wieczorek
64. John and Paul Olszowka
65. Joseph Olszowka
66. Matthew Ligęza
67. Franciszek Opara
68. Wojciech Opara
69. Jan Pawełczyk
70. Ignatius Brewing
71. Grzegorz Panek
72. Antoni Rabsztyn I
73. Maciej Rabsztyn
74. Antoni Rabsztyn II
75. Jan i Kacper Rabus
76. Lawrence and Wojciech Rabsztyn
77. Wojciech Brabus and Francis Potępka
78. Jan Rabsztyn I
79. Antoni Rabsztyn III
80. Jan Rabsztyn II
81. Matthew Rabsztyn
82. Jan Rabsztyn III
83. Feliks Rabus
84. Piotr Rabsztyn
85. Stanisław Supple
86. Joseph Sołtysik
87. Sebastian i Piotr Supple
88. Francis and Kacper Violin
89. Tomasz Szafruga
90. James Falcon
91. Anthony Falcon
92. Thomas Violin and Thomas Suchanek
93. Thomas Falcon
94. Stanislaw Falcon- older
95. Stanislaw Falcon- junior
96. Simon Falcon
97. Wojciech Supple
98. Antoni i Wawrzyniec Stanek
99. Antoni i Jan Wadowscy
100. Gregory and Simon Wegrzyn
101. Andrzej Witek
102. Paul Witek I
103. Wojciech Wegrzyn
104. Paul Witek II
105. Piotr Warmuz
106. Francis and Wojciech Wyderka
107. Stanislaw Wegrzyn and Stanislaw Wieczorek
108. Jan Wieczorek
109. Wacław Wieczorek
110. Franciszek Wieczorek
111. Andrzej Witkowski
112. Antoni Wyderka
113. Jan Wypych
114. Joseph Wyderka
115. Peter Zabiegała
116. Tomasz Rabsztyn
117. Bartholomew Zieba
118. Adam Ujec
119. Francis Zubek
120. Tomasz Zieba
121. Simon Zaporowski
122. Tadeusz Zabiegała
123. Kazimierz Zabiegała
+ settlement of the Commune, village school, forging, settlement to the church and pastures.

It has based monograph: B. Ciepiela, FROM. Rabsztyn "Bobrowniki. Memories and documents "Katowice 2002.

2 October 2014 at 23:21 #2292

Damian Jureczko
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This list of residents Bobrownik added to the department: RESOURCES-LISTS OF RESIDENTS.

Meanwhile, I put a link to the family of Wojciech Korfantego. According to the already known among genealogists develop Korfantych The family has Italian roots. For my part, I would love to find out the sources of this development. The Department RESOURCES tab is Famous Ślązacy, where its place is also mentioned Wojciech (Albert) Korfanty. Deliberately I not posted yet his genealogy, because I'm counting on it, that our forum will be to answer some questions bothering me. I think, that will serve ago, however, a separate topic on the forum , whereas in this thread stick to the exchanging of individuals and families who came to Silesia.
Below the promised link to the genealogy Korfantych , and I invite you to a discussion about the extensive genealogy at the forum in a separate thread.

Home genealogy Korfantych

Damian Jureczko

13 October 2014 at 22:50 #2513

Damian Jureczko
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From the book by Zygmunt Orlik ” Tales Pszczyna People, stuff, events” ed. in 2009.

“(…) Hamlet Studzionki, which according to local tradition, was called initially Ungerkolonią, since the first settlers were reportedly tamtejszymi people from Hungary. territories occupied by the colonists were difficult to grow and gave starvation sets. This contributed to a malicious twisting name of the hamlet of Ungar- na Hungerkolonię, or settlement of hunger (…)”

15 February 2015 at 09:44 #4214

Damian Jureczko
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Measurers employed in the sixteenth century in Tarnów Mountains. Year and place of origin:
Jakub Rapp – 1563, Zgorzelec
Krzysztof Luntzmann – 1564, Frankonia
January Staircase – 1568 – Hungary, Slovakia
Marcin Heynacher – 1571, Cracow
Krzystof Lorenz – 1571, Golden stream
Krzysztof Kahfner – 1579, Malbork
Krzysztof Hofrichter – 1579, Wroclaw

source: “Tarnowskie Mountains, The origin and history of the oldest mining town” D. Nobleman-Dudzicz, ed. You, 2006

30 November 2015 at 22:37 #7104

Leszek Bensz
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I add your znajdkę

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PZZ-2J2?i=46&wc=9R5B-6TG%3A362228601%2C364454401%2C362970801%3Fcc%3D2115410&cc=2115410

bottom left act

Adam Jukub Makowiecki. rechristened “Mahometanin” interesting for what this story is hidden

1 December 2015 at 19:32 #7123

Teresa Lukasik
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Let me join the translation of this act;
“Splendid Reverend Antoni Dunin Kozicki, Doctor of Philosophy at the University of Cracow, canon of the collegiate church in Poznan, prepozyt w Niegowej, Dean foralny Lelowskiej etc. etc., He baptized our permission, the assistance of his brother Philip Kaczynski of the Order of St.. Paul the First Hermit, currently residing in provostry in Żarkach,
born Adam James Makowiecki, who converted the mistakes Mohammedan to the Catholic faith. Godparents were splendid Adam Męciński, Starościce ostrzeszowski The splendid and Aniela, his wife. This happened on Monday in the second day of Pentecost in the parish church Żarkach.”

She was a noble Tatar family of Makowieckich “our” Tatars, it's probably the member converted to Catholicism.

3 December 2015 at 11:20 #7127

Artur Paczyna
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Migration of population in Silesia is on the river.

And as far as migration in the nineteenth / twentieth century they are to grasp, it farther into the past, It is more difficult. If we add to this scale migration of some (eg. fryderycjańska colonization in the eighteenth century. – ok. 60 thousand. colonists), This initiated the topic probably not be exhaustive.

From my research shows, that migration was omni, both internal Silesian, and outer, depending on the historical period: mainly from the Kingdom Polish, less of the Kingdom of Bohemia, Prus, incidentally from other parts of Europe.

The source of migration were war (eg. 1618 – 1648, 1740 – 1763, napoleońskie, 1914 – 1918, 1939 – 1945) And their effects, change of political affiliation of Silesia and the state policy in the field of ethnic structure (eg. colonization fryderycjańska), industrial Revolution, which can be divided into at least 3 phase, famine, pauperization of rural communities.

It is reasonable, to migrations in Silesia organize the criterion of the village. What criterion by parish, I have my doubts, in which case, when a village or rather its settlement, They belonged to different parishes.

According to me, It is also an important criterion for the period analyzed.

So it seems reasonable in view of the prevailing trends of migration and its structure religious and ethnic division of the application migration waves to:

1. The migration of the Jewish and German in the thirteenth century.
2. Migration of Czech and Moravian (XIV – XV w.)
3. migration XV – XVII w.
4. The migration of the seventeenth century. (After the Thirty Years' War)
5. The migration of the Northern War (the beginning of the eighteenth century.
6. The migration of the Prussian (after 1740)
7. Fryderycjańską migration (after 1763 r.)
8. The migration to the industrial 1850 r.
9. The migration of the industries 1850.
10. The migration from the late nineteenth / twentieth century.
11. Migration in years 1921 – 1939.
12. Migration in years 1939 – 1945
13. Migration in years 1945 – 1989
14. migration after 1989 year.

This does not mean, that the direction of migration, or religious affiliation or ethnic origin in different periods can not be different.

Each classification is imperfect and vulnerable to criticism, so please treat it in terms of the auxiliary, and not arbitrary.

For me, as a historian it is the most interesting period of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.
Once because of the availability of source materials, two, the impact of migration on the ethnic structure in Silesia even today.

Artur

Only one request to speak Silesian people, to remain true to his Christian principles and his attachment to Polish.

Wojciech Korfanty

16 December 2015 at 22:21 #7210

Gabriel of d. Marek
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A few years ago my world was just Zabrze, Kończyce, because there was born dad and Glogowek – hand we have. Very by the latter 3 years of my genealogy horizons broadened. I was happy, that paternal ancestors have so close: Bielszowice, Pawlow, Makoszowy, Paniówki…What is a stone's throw. Yeah, the deeper I go the more I show how my ancestors “rovers” (As it says Andrzej M.) Modrzejów first surprise present district of Sosnowiec, and once unique Jewish town (could my ancestors as well?). Next Lewin ancestors – Neydek / Neydich, can the Czech Republic?. A long time looking for the place of birth of the last two I did not think my prapradziadków, the corral me to Brynek :). Interesting, what I discover, when I'll continue the party there? Wurst / Würsten probably Austria…time will tell. Does not change the fact, that my cousins also łazikują…can we have it in the genes? :)

17 December 2015 at 17:25 #7211

Leszek Bensz
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Perhaps Ms. Gabriela comes to Neudeck?

17 December 2015 at 23:10 #7212

Gabriel of d. Marek
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Can be and Neudeck. ..This name can be interpreted in many ways;)

Gaba

18 December 2015 at 16:51 #7213

Leszek Bensz
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aaa reading comprehension bows on my part, Neydek name is not town. Sorry for the confusion : )
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