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User“Sir, I have to admit that I do not really know what you mean ???”
What I mean, and without having any evidence, you insinuate you and “Prussian” The teacher deserved to treat him like that.
In the Internet era, it is not difficult to patop information about the past of Slask, Since the family message and personal experience are lacking.
My experience and family message showed me clearly: neither the Germans nor the Poles considered Slazakov as equal. It was always about the wealth of this country and the Slazans were only a drive of the drive. This is so patriotically idealized Silesian uprisings are the best example of this. Both parties financed fighters, provided weapons and military advice. And the Slazans? One brother was Polish and the other was a German and they fired at each other, because they believed this or other side. I pay attention and there were something isolated in Silesia. Poland attacked Soviet Russia, plebiscites and uprisings were made not only in Silesia, but also in Schlezwik, in Eastern and Western Prussia, Eupen, Alsace-Lotarine. Of course not out of patriotism. France and the United Kingdom were interested in the German state and they were behind these actions. To this day, it has not changed much: after the fall of the commune, it uses NATO Polish-Russian animosities, Certainly not for love for Poles.Grzondziel
UserInteresting document indeed.
"Pyjter how do you know that Josef Globisch was" guilty of God ", he was a Prussian activist and it is not known how he made his career among the Prussians, maybe he wasn't very popular with the local people, maybe he took too much to heart the cooperation with the "Prussian oppressor and the Germanization of the Silesian people", He did not get a Silesian eagle for distributing bread rolls. The Poles who persecuted him were perhaps Silesians with a Silesian spirit.
If you think that a Silesian with a "Polish spirit" is a Pole, it means that a Silesian with a German spirit is a German ??? "I consider this post scandalous, maybe because not fully thought out or maybe because Slazak's lack of life experience?
Let me start with the memories of my father: when people went to school in Ruda Slaska, first the altar boys came and asked in what language the Christmas carol was to be held. One neighbor preferred German, another in Polish, there was no problem. Being a middle school student, was in Bytom. Sometimes he had the cap of a Polish high school, he was beaten. While applying for a job in a Polish mine, he was asked, Jun is Polish or German. He answered that he was Polish, here he was declared: Mr. Grzondziel, even if you put the red and white flag in the d… stuck it, you will be German to me. My father did military service in Nowy Dwór Mazowiecki, everyone was treated badly there, for they have been robbed of zold. In September 39 evacuations were announced, when they came from Ruda to Katowice, there were already Germans in Katowice and they advised, just to come home. After the defeat at Stalingrad, my father was incorporated into the Wehrmacht, He then had two children and a pregnant wife… He returned in October 1946. Our new neighbors considered us Nemtsov and denounced the Stalinist militia, and that my brothers were throwing chestnuts at party slogans. Byli na 24 hours in a reformatory. We live in Sczombierki, working-class district of Bytom. Here lived the indigenous Slazacs in family quarters with toilets outside the houses or on the floor. The bath took place in a zinc tub in the kitchen. Before the war, they were Poles. Well-paid officials, the so-called Berliners, lived in the city center in beautiful houses with complete comfort. After a year 1945 these good districts were taken over by displacement from the east, they called us the Autochthons, now Szombierkorzy was treated as Nemtsov. Our cousin from Zabrze once told his friends about us, “our relatives live here, but they are such Poles ". Being alone in the army, I picked up a lot of spite from the "Poles", that is, not from Silesia.
When my German colleagues found out, that my car was stolen in Poland, they rejoiced like children . Slazak always has “evil” nationality."He was a Prussian activist and it is not known how he made his career among Prussians"
Well, please read on the internet now, who was Henryk Grzondziel and where his sister Salomea died. Maybe you will understand, what does it mean to be Slazak.-
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31 May 2018 at 14:48 in reply to: My tree – names Grzondziel / Grządziel, Sonsalla, Ochmann, Rother #16688Grzondziel
UserHello,
My father was one of fourteen children of
Paul Joseph Grzondziel and Franziska Paulina Chwalek.
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Paul Joseph Grzondziel
born 01.08.1872 Katowice-Dab
died 07.01.1927 Ruda Sl.Franziska Pauline Chwalek
born. 18.08.1876 leg
died 1918 legmarried on 20.08.1894 Zalenze (14 children)
Years ago, I found an interesting article on “Katowice gardener”, Unfortunately, he does not exist any more and my computer lost data after a loss. There you could find quite a few Grzondziels in the Katowice area.- by the way “gardener” used to mean people, beßaßen the not own land and rent in kind to the owners paid = paupers.
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