1700’s Urbanowice surnames confusion

Hi George,

I see you have read the thread entitled List of Bieruń Stary residents from December 1910, where I also posted some information about the residents of Urbanowice and Jaroszowice.

As for the Glas family, I can add that in the parish of Bieruń on 03.02.1788 Jacob Pikos, aged 26, and Regina Glasowna, aged 20, both from Wygorzele (Wygorzele is actually part of the village of Jaroszowice) were married. It is interesting to note that the young couple received a dispensation from being related in the 3rd and 4th degree. The witnesses at the wedding were: Clemens Jadamus and Francisco Pikos, both from Wygorzele.

In addition, in Bieruń on 07.02.1790 Joseph Janota, 27 years old, and Sophia Glasowna, 25 years old, both from Wygorzele, were married. The witnesses at their wedding were again Francisco Pikos and Clemens Jadamus from Wygorzele.

Clemens Jadamus was also a witness at the wedding of Adalbert Janot and Susanna Glasowna in 1783.

The Valentin Janota from Urbanowice mentioned by you, who married Hedwig Glasowna from Wygorzele on 03.02.1783, was 23 years old and his wife was 16 years old.

The oldest record of a wedding from the Bieruń parish in which the surname Glas appears comes from September 1773, unfortunately the pages are tightly sewn together, so the date is not entirely certain, but I am inclined to think that the wedding took place on September 2. On that day, Eve Glosovnam from Wygorzele married Stanley Drobiczek from Lędziny. The witness at their wedding was Francisco Pikos from Wygorzele.

In my opinion it should also be noted that on 10.01.1760 Adalbert son of Joseph Klos from Wygorzela was buried, there is no information at what age he died. We also have a record of the funeral of the 14 year old daughter of the mentioned here Joseph named Marina, who died on 13.04.1766. The surname Klos may be a corruption of the surname Glos, or vice versa!?

The surname or alias Glas/Glos/Klos does not appear in the baptismal records of the parish in Bieruń from 1727 to 1742. A representative of this family must have arrived in Wygorzele after 1742, perhaps from Wesoła or Miedźna?

I would advise you to approach the information contained in the Lendziner Dienstbüchern with caution, without a thorough analysis of the preserved church records, because surnames were a fluid issue in that area at that time, so there is no certainty that a given owner took over the farm from his father. You need to reconstruct the genealogy for the entire surname to see if anyone is missing, has started going by an alias, or has changed their surname entirely.

You must also remember that we don’t have baptisms from the Bieruń parish from 1742 to 1763, which makes it significantly more difficult to identify people born during that time.

Regards,
Andrzej

Hi,
Can you check whether the name of Tatay appears in the book you mentioned in 1700’s? My ancestor Jan Tatay (later Johann Tatoj, sometimes alias Paszek) married Jadwiga Laskowna on 21.7.1823 in Berun, but I don’t know anything about their parents nor their birthdays. He was from Urbanowitz, but she was from Jaroszowitz.

I will be grateful for any information.
Rado

Hi George,

The Janota/Janeta surname is most certainly associated with the town of Bieruń, the form Janecik appears in Cielmice. The records from the years 1727-1742 do not record anyone with these surnames in Urbanowice and Jaroszowice/Wygorzele.

But this does not prove anything because key information is still missing, such as weddings from Bieruń before 1770 and baptisms from the years 1742 to 1763. Therefore, it is impossible to determine where the Janota surname appeared in Urbanowice. The fact is that Jan Janota took over the farm in Urbanowice in 1750, which we know from the trial records from the end of the 18th century. But in what circumstances did this happen? Of course, one can forcefully see him as the „father” of Adalbert and Valentin, the time and place would match, but due to the lack of sources, it is impossible to prove it.

I would also look for the surname Pikos in nearby parishes, I advise you to avoid taking shortcuts on the advice of Uncle Google.

Besides, I don’t know if you are interpreting correctly what you received from the Archdiocesan Archive in Katowice. In 1783, Adalbert Janota married Susanna Glasowna (Glass) and began to use his wife’s surname in addition to his own. However, we do not know what Adalbert’s earlier genealogy looked like, because we do not have the records. Possible earlier aliases associated with the Janota surname are also a mystery.

Best regards,
Andrzej

Hi George,

You are reading the Carolingian cadastre record incorrectly, it refers to MATHES JANOTHA, not Janotsa. The spelling of the surname JANOTHA with the letter H written after the letter T is nothing more than a long T. Remember that this document was written by ear, like many others, and their authors often did not know the „correct” spelling of surnames because they did not come from these parts, or only learned about local realities over time.

Regarding the second part of your post, I wonder where exactly you found any representative of the JANOTA family with an alias? What is the alias and are you able to attach any document confirming it.

Best regards,
Andrzej